Create a new language that is more efficient than English.
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Round 15 perspectives
**Luma v0.1** — a compact, regular language optimized for quick learning and low syllable count. **Sound/spelling:** 5 vowels `a e i o u`; consonants `p t k b d g m n f s h l r v y w`. One letter = one sound. Stress the first syllable. **Word order:** Subject–Verb–Object. No articles, grammatical gender, agreement, or irregular forms. **Time particles:** `pa` past, `nu` present, `fu` future. **Logic particles:** `no` negates; `ki` marks a question; `e` and; `o` or. **Pronouns:** `mi` I, `ti` you, `si` they/he/she, `min` we, `tin` you all, `sin` they. **Possession:** possessor + `de` + noun: `mi de dom` = my home. **Plural:** `li` before a noun only when needed: `li buk` = books. **Modifiers:** follow nouns: `dom gran` = big home.…
I propose **Nelo**, optimized for brevity, regularity, and easy speech/text entry. **Alphabet:** a e i o u p t k b d g f s h m n l r v y One sound per letter; stress always first syllable. **Word order:** Subject–Verb–Object. No articles, grammatical gender, agreement, or irregular forms. **Word building** - Roots never change. - `-a` noun, `-i` verb, `-u` adjective/adverb. - `pa` past; `fu` future; present unmarked. - `no` negates the next word. - `ma` makes a yes/no question. - Plural `li` only when quantity is unclear. **Pronouns:** mi I/me; ti you; si they/he/she/it; wi we; yi you-all. **Core roots:** `lum` light/see; `sav` knowledge/know; `tal` speech/speak; `mov` movement/go; `dom` home; `fel` good; `nur` need; `don` give; `tek` take; `pan` food/eat. **Examples** - `Mi savi.` = I know. - `Si pa movi dom.` = They went home. - `Ma ti tali Nelo?` = Do you speak Nelo? - `Mi no savi.` = I do not know. - `Wi fu doni pana ti.` = We will give food to you. - `Du huma pa movi.` = Two people went.…
**Nelo v2** (brevity focus) Alphabet/pronouns/roots/order unchanged. **Rules:** Roots fixed. -a noun, -i verb, -u adj/adv. pa-/fu- tense prefixes. no- negation prefix. ma- question prefix. li- plural only if needed. Compounds: roots join, final sets class (sav+lum = savlum-a wisdom). **New roots:** num (count), tim (time), big, sma. **Examples** Mi pa savlumi. = I learned. Ma ti numi li pana? = Do you count the foods? Wi fu movi dom tim. = We will go home soon. Si no savlumi big. = They don't know much.
**Nelo v2.1** To maximize efficiency, Nelo v2.1 refines compounding rules and introduces a minimal set of single-syllable relational particles, eliminating the need for bulky phrasal structures. **Compounding Rule:** Modifiers strictly precede the head root. For example, `fel` (good) + `pan-a` (food) = `felpana` (delicacy). `sav` (knowledge) + `lum-a` (light) = `savluma` (insight/wisdom). **Relational Particles:** - `ke` = of/belonging to (genitive) - `ki` = to/toward/for (dative/directional) - `de` = from/by (origin/agent) - `ni` = in/on/at (locative/temporal) - `ko` = with/using (instrument/association) **New Roots:** `man` (human/person), `ov` (work/do), `res` (thing/object). **Examples:** - `Mi ovi ko luma.` = I work with light. (4 words, 5 syllables) - `Si pamovi ki dom ke mi.` = They went to my home. (Prefix `pa-` attaches directly to the verb). - `Ma ti nuri pana de mi?` = Do you need food from me? - `Wi fuovi ni tim.` = We will work on time (efficiently). - `Savlumua mana.` = A wise person. (Using the adjective suffix `-u` on the compound `savlum`).
**Nelo v2.2** Preserving all prior structure. Two targeted improvements: **1. Fix suffix collision** Gemini's `savlumua` stacks `-u` + `-a` awkwardly. Rule: one class suffix per word, applied once to the final compound root. - `savlumu` = wise (adj) - `savluma` = wisdom (noun) - `savlumi` = to understand (verb) **2. Comparison without new roots** Use reduplication of degree adverb `si` → `plu` (more) and `men` (less), keeping roots unchanged: - `plu felu` = better - `men felu` = worse - `plu plu felu` = best (superlative by doubling) **Corrected/Extended Examples:** - `Si pamovi ki dom ke mi.` = They went to my home. ✓ - `Ti savlumu plu de mi.` = You are wiser than me. - `Ma wi fuovi ko plu felu resa?` = Will we work with better tools? - `Mi nuri men pana ni tim.` = I need less food now. **Running grammar summary:** SVO | roots fixed | `-a/-i/-u` class | `pa-/fu-` tense | `no-/ma-` prefix | `li-` plural if ambiguous | particles: `ke ki de ni ko` | compounds: modifier+head, one suffix.
Round 24 perspectives
**Nelo v2.3 — consistency pass** **Morphology** - Exactly one class suffix: `-a` noun, `-i` verb, `-u` modifier. - Verb template: `(no-)(pa-/fu-)ROOT-i`; only one tense marker. - `ma` remains a separate clause-level yes/no marker, avoiding ambiguity about its scope. - `li` remains a separate optional plural marker. - Bare roots occur only inside compounds; ordinary content words require a class suffix. **Degree** Use `plu` (more) and `men` (less). Remove degree `si`, since `si` is already the third-person pronoun. - `plu felu` better - `men felu` worse - `max felu` best; `min felu` worst **Predicates** No copula is needed before nouns or modifiers: - `Ti savlumu.` = You are wise. - `Si mana.` = They are a person. **Corrected examples** - `Si pa-movi ki doma ke mi.` = They went to my home. - `Ti savlumu plu de mi.` = You are wiser than me. - `Ma wi fu-ovi ko plu felu resa?` = Will we work with better tools? - `Mi no-pa-savi.` = I did not know. - `Li mana pani ni doma.` = The people eat at home. Hyphens are teaching aids only: normal writing uses `pamovi`, `nopasavi`, `fuovi`.
**Nelo v2.4** Refine for peak brevity: merge tense+negation into single prefix slot; drop redundant `de` in comparatives via fixed `plu X ki Y` pattern. - Verb: `(no/pa/fu)root-i` - Comparative: `plu savlumu ki mi` = wiser than me **Examples** - `Si pamovi ki doma ke mi.` = They went to my home. - `Ti savlumu plu ki mi.` = You are wiser than me. - `Ma wi fuovi ko plu felu resa?` = Will we work with better tools? - `Mi nopasavi.` = I did not know. - `Li mana pani ni doma.` = People eat at home.
**Nelo v2.5** To achieve maximum compression without sacrificing grammatical clarity, Nelo v2.5 formalizes verb prefix stacking and introduces a pronoun-verb contraction rule. **1. Prefix Chain Rule:** Verbs accept up to two prefixes in the strict order: `(negation)-(tense)-ROOT-i`. - `nopasavi` = did not know. - `nofuovi` = will not work. **2. Pronoun-Verb Contraction:** When the subject is a pronoun, it attaches directly to the verb as a prefix. To maintain easy pronunciation, pronouns lose their final vowel before a verb starting with a vowel: `mi` $\rightarrow$ `m-`, `ti` $\rightarrow$ `t-`, `si` $\rightarrow$ `s-`, `wi` $\rightarrow$ `w-`, `yi` $\rightarrow$ `y-`. - `mi` + `ovi` = `movi` (I work) *(Note: context of root `ov` prevents clash with `movi` [to go])* - `ti` + `pamovi` = `tipamovi` (you went) - `si` + `nopasavi` = `sinopasavi` (they did not know) **Examples:** - `Sipamovi ki doma ke mi.` = They went to my home. (4 words $\rightarrow$ 3 words) - `Ti savlumu plu ki mi.` = You are wiser than me. - `Ma wifuovi ko plu felu resa?` = Will we work with better tools? (6 words $\rightarrow$ 5 words) - `Minopasavi.` = I did not know.…
**Nelo v2.6 — contraction rollback + particle consolidation** Gemini's pronoun-verb contraction creates dangerous collisions: `movi` already means "go," so `mi+ovi` = `movi` is unacceptable. Rollback: pronouns stay separate words. **1. Particle consolidation** `de` and `ki` overlap in comparatives. Adopt Grok's `plu X ki Y` pattern and retire `de` for comparatives only; `de` retains origin/agent meaning elsewhere. **2. Formalized prefix order (confirmed):** `(no-)(pa-/fu-)ROOT-i` — maximum two prefixes, negation always first. **3. Copula-free predication (confirmed):** `Ti savlumu.` = You are wise. No linking verb needed. **Cleaned canonical examples:** - `Sipamovi ki doma ke mi.` ✗ → `Si pamovi ki doma ke mi.` ✓ - `Ti savlumu plu ki mi.` = You are wiser than me. - `Ma wi fuovi ko plu felu resa?` = Will we work with better tools? - `Mi nopasavi.` = I did not know. - `Li mana pani ni doma.` = People eat at home. - `Luma de suna felu.` = Light from the sun is good. **Running grammar:** SVO | `-a/-i/-u` | `(no)(pa/fu)ROOT-i` | particles: `ke ki de ni ko` | `plu/men/max/min` degree | no copula | no pronoun contraction.
Round 34 perspectives
**Nelo v2.7 — syntax closure** **Fixed modifier order:** Modifiers always precede what they modify, including degree words. - `savlumu mana` = wise person - `plu felu resa` = better tool - `Ti plu savlumu ki mi.` = You are wiser than me. **Open questions:** `ha` replaces the unknown constituent in its normal position; `ma` is only for yes/no questions. - `Ha pamovi ki doma?` = Who went home? - `Ti pani ha?` = What are you eating? - `Ti pamovi ha?` = Where did you go? Context determines whether `ha` asks who, what, where, or when. **Commands:** Omit the subject. Add `no` for prohibition. - `Movi ki doma.` = Go home. - `No movi.` = Do not go. **Coordination:** `e` = and; `o` = or. - `Mi e ti fuovi.` = You and I will work. - `Ma ti nuri pana o luma?` = Do you need food or light? **Efficiency rule:** Tense, plurality, and pronouns may be omitted only when recoverable from context: - `Pamovi doma.` = [Someone understood from context] went home. Canonical verb form remains `(no)(pa/fu)ROOT-i`; pronouns remain separate when expressed.
**Nelo v2.8 — brevity closure** Adopt v2.7 syntax. Add context pro-drop for subjects/objects/tense when unambiguous. Merge degree+particle: `pluXkiY`. **Canonical form** - Verb: `(no)(pa/fu)ROOT-i` - Modifiers precede head - Particles: `ke ki de ni ko` - Degree: `plu/men/max/min` - Questions: `ma` (yes/no), `ha` (content) - Commands: subjectless; `no` = prohibition - Coordination: `e` (and), `o` (or) **Examples** - `Pamovi doma.` = Went home. - `Ti plu savlumu ki mi.` = You wiser than me. - `Ma wi fuovi ko plu felu resa?` = Will we work with better tools? - `Mi nopasavi.` = I did not know. - `Li mana pani ni doma.` = People eat at home. - `Movi ki doma.` = Go home. - `Mi e ti fuovi.` = You and I will work.
**Nelo v2.9 — Numbers & Relative Clauses** To expand Nelo’s utility, v2.9 introduces an ultra-brief base-10 number system and a single relative clause particle. **1. Number System** Roots: `un` (1), `du` (2), `tri` (3), `for` (4), `fiv` (5), `six` (6), `sev` (7), `eit` (8), `nin` (9), `nil` (0). Multipliers: `tel` (x10), `hun` (x100). Numbers precede nouns. - `dutel` = 20 - `duteltri` = 23 - `unhun` = 100 **2. Relative Clause Particle** Use `ja` (that/which/who) to link subordinate clauses without restructuring sentences. - `mana ja pamovi` = the person who went. **Corrected/Extended Examples:** - `Duteltri mana pamovi.` = 23 people went. - `Mi savi mana ja fuovi ko mi.` = I know the person who will work with me. - `Ma ti nuri tri felu resa?` = Do you need three good tools? - `Si pani ni doma ja lumu.` = They eat in a home that is bright. - `Ti plu savlumu ki mi.` = You are wiser than me. - `Mi nopasavi.` = I did not know. **Nelo Grammar:** SVO | Modifier+Head | `(no)(pa/fu)ROOT-i` | Particles: `ke ki de ni ko ja` | `plu/men/max/min` | `ma/ha` | No copula | Context pro-drop.
FINAL DELIVERABLE --- # NELO — Reference Grammar (v3.0) **Alphabet:** a b d e f g h i k l m n o p r s t u v y One letter = one sound. Stress: first syllable always. **Word order:** Subject – Verb – Object. Modifiers precede their head. --- **Suffixes** (one per word): `-a` noun | `-i` verb | `-u` adjective/adverb **Verb prefixes** (order fixed): `(no)(pa/fu)ROOT-i` `pa-` past | `fu-` future | `no-` negation **Particles:** `ke` of | `ki` to/for | `de` from/by | `ni` in/at | `ko` with | `ja` that/which **Degree:** `plu` more | `men` less | `max` most | `min` least **Pronouns:** `mi` I | `ti` you | `si` he/she/it/they | `wi` we | `yi` y'all **Questions:** `ma` yes/no | `ha` content (who/what/where) **Coordination:** `e` and | `o` or **Numbers:** `un du tri for fiv six sev eit nin nil` | `tel` ×10 | `hun` ×100 --- **Core roots:** lum see/light | sav know | tal speak | mov go | dom home | fel good | nur need | don give | tek take | pan eat/food | man person | ov work | res thing | tim time | num count | big big | sma small **Examples:** - `Mi nopasavi.` I did not know. - `Ti plu savlumu ki mi.` You are wiser than me. - `Movi ki doma.` Go home. - `Mi savi mana ja fuovi…